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I think as a young racer it is everyone’s dream to race for the Prancing Horse. But if you have already been in a team that has a few championships under the belt, it kind of blurs that line.

Maybe if he looks at his age compared to the newer bunch of drivers he might want to try his luck in a more competitive car now than trying to build up a car for a few years just to hand it off to a younger driver once it is ready to win?

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On a little side note: I watched a documentary about Billy Monger last night.

And then later one of his latest youtube videos where he actually won the Pau Grand Prix in the Euroformula series.

Aaaaanyway, in the Pau GP he pitted after the formation lap to change to wet tyres. My question is how this will work exactly. The formation lap has everyone get back to their positions and then the lights set them off on the race proper. If you pit on the formation lap, can you change tyres before the lights go out? Or do you change the tyres but only pull off when the lights go off like a normal pit lane start? Is this a legitimate tactic even in Formula 1?

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If he felt it is unsafe to start with normal tires and pitted for wets, he gets to start from the pitlane

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As a Ferrari fan, I would welcome him with open arms. Him and LeClerc would be an epic duo. Hopefully the team can support them if this comes to be.

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Having two championship winning capable drivers might sound awesome, however history has shown us that it usually ends in Senna-Prost (1988/1989), Niki Lauda & Carlos Reutemann ('76/'77), Nigel Mansell & Alain Prost ('90), Lewis Hamilton & Fernando Alonso, Mark Webber & Sebastian Vettel, Lewis Hamilton & Nico Rosberg, etc levels of getting bitter. Wanting to fight each other, blaming teams taking preference. Driving each other off the road, etc etc…

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That might be true, but the team won’t mind so much if this combative pairing ends up winning everything. Pretty much all those line-ups you mentioned dominated the sport while they were together. Driver pairings where one driver doesn’t really threaten the other tend to be much more serene, but can also be less successful, that is unless the car itself is a consistent race winner. Examples would be Senna / Berger, Mansell / Patrese, Schumacher / Irvine, Hakkinen / Coulthard, and, I think, Hamilton / Bottas.

That’s a damn fine question. I think @Wyvern is right in that the driver/team can change to inters/wets if they feel the track is unsafe on slicks. But I think in F1 at least the Start Procedure regulations make what he did in the video tricky.

At the start of an F1 race, teams are not permitted to change tyres after the 3 minute warning has gone up:

36.4 When the three minute signal is shown all cars on the grid must have their wheels fitted, after
this signal wheels may only be removed in the pit lane.

And allowing a switch to wets after the 5 minute signal but before the race start (so presumably including the formation lap) is at the discrection of the Race Director:

36.14 Only in the following cases will any variation in the start procedure be allowed :
a) If it starts to rain after the five minute signal but before the race is started and, in the
opinion of the race director teams should be given the opportunity to change tyres, the
abort lights will be shown on the Line and the starting procedure will begin again at the
ten minute point.

There is a section that talks about pitting on the formation lap…

Any other car entering the pit lane during the formation laps may re‐join the track but
must enter the pit lane after the safety car returns to the pits and start the race from
the end of the pit lane in the order they get there.

A penalty under Article 38.3(d) will be imposed on any driver whose tyre(s) are changed
for a different specification before the start of the race.

Presumably that’s to allow for any drivers who somehow manage to trash their initial start tyres on the formation lap, but the swithc must be like for like, so you wouldn’t be able to switch from softs to hards for example and claim it as your tyre change for the race. The penalty mentioned, 38.3(d), is a 10 second stop-and-go time penalty.

So basically, my reading of it, is that the entire start procedure, which includes the formation lap, is under the control of the Race Director. And unless he declares the track wet, in this example, the driver should have started the race on the tyres he had fitted, and then pitted at the end of Lap 1 to switch to Inters/Wets.

Or something…

(sorry, this turned out to be a shit ton more than I planned to respond with. :roll_eyes: )

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Check no2

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Ah ha! Great example of how confusing a formation pit lap could be! Thanks!

BTW, you sound like a click bait advert: “Top 10 Moments of Pre-Race Chaos - number will will surprise you!” :rofl:

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Job done :stuck_out_tongue:

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Looks like McLaren wanted to shut down any silly season rumours early. I think it’s a great call; these two are a great partnership.

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You beat me to it.

This is when you realise how old you are. He just got his bloody road licence…

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Sheesh. Wonder if they let him take his driving test in that thing. Looks like a 570.

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I somehow doubt it, I do think it is his reward from the team for getting it

The scary thing is until yesterday, he couldnt pop down to the shops to buy his mum milk, but he could speed around a track in a F1 car at 300km/h

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Well, not legally, anyway…

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News conference called at Silverstone in a couple of hours:

Can only be to announce agreement to keep the British GP at Silverstone for at least another year, probably more. They can’t be stupid enough to hold a conference 2 days before the start of this years’ GP to say that they haven’t reached an agreement and the 2020 British GP won’t be held at Silverstone, can they?

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F1 at Silverstone for the next 5 years :+1:

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Oh yay

(I wish it was easier to convey sarcasm via text)