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How would this even work?!? How much water would you need for it to even make a difference? Tyres are all fitted and removed by Pirelli - surely they would have noticed something.

What a crazy race that was! And what a brilliant season this has turned out to be. Might be worth watching Drive to Survive next year again.

Max giving his haters a Master Class. The Drivers Championship is done. Lando looked amateurish by comparison.

Sad that the red cars didn’t capitalise on the chaos a little more though. McLaren look set to take the Constructors title. Hopefully Ferrari do enough to hold onto P2.

Well chuffed for the Frenchies. The double podium clearly meant a lot to them. Now if only the Sauber lads could have taken advantage of the conditions and snuck a point or two onto the board…

The youngsters Colapinto and Bearman clearly need a lot more wet weather experience. That said, there were a lot of way more experienced drivers who struggled as well.

Oh, and Stroll getting himself stuck in the sand trap has to be the :man_facepalming:t2: of the season - even if there was something wrong with the car. What a muppet.

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Haha blady Stroll, I didn’t see that replay of how he got there after going off the first time.
Man I was devistated to see Sainz was also one of the slip and sliders :confused:
And yeah Ferrari was kinda nowhere this weekend. they don’t do well in the rain. Le Clerc sending one on the inside on the second restart was great though.
Well done to Alpine yes. Classic crazy weather results haha.

I don’t think Max and Lando are going to be friends anymore…

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Villian Lando hits different

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Was sort of inevitable I guess.

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Followed by…

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VB back to Merc as Reserve Driver/Looking On Over Toto’s Shoulder Guy for 2025.

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What happens to Schumi? Or can they have 2?

I don’t think there’s a restriction on how many Reserves a team can have. Other than budget and needing to have a valid Super License. This year some teams have only one, some have two, Ferrari had three. (Or two and a half really, with Ollie Bearman on the Haas list too).

2024 F1 reserve drivers

Team Reserve driver(s)
Red Bull Liam Lawson
Mercedes Mick Schumacher, Frederik Vesti
Ferrari Oliver Bearman, Antonio Giovinazzi and Robert Shwartzman
Aston Martin Felipe Drugovich
McLaren Ryo Hirakawa and Pato O’Ward
Alpine Jack Doohan
Visa CashApp RB Liam Lawson
Stake F1 Theo Pourchaire, Zane Maloney
Williams Franco Colapinto
Haas Pietro Fittipaldi and Oliver Bearman

In 2023 McLaren had four listed, with two of them (Vandoorne and Drugovish) doubling up with Aston as well.

Full list of 2023 F1 reserve drivers

Team Reserve driver(s)
Red Bull Liam Lawson, Dennis Hauger and Zane Maloney
Ferrari Antonio Giovinazzi
Mercedes Mick Schumacher
Alpine Jack Doohan
McLaren Alex Palou, Mick Schumacher, Stoffel Vandoorne and Felipe Drugovich
Alfa Romeo Theo Pourchaire
Aston Martin Stoffel Vandoorne and Felipe Drugovich
Haas Pietro Fittipaldi
AlphaTauri Liam Lawson, Dennis Hauger, and Zane Maloney
Williams -

Odd hey. Might be interesting to go see if there’s anything about it in the sporting regulations somewhere.

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dammit you beat me, was just about to post haha.
Being from Cape Town I obviously prefer the Cape Town version they did last time. But this Kyalami one hits different now with the murmurs.

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In Brazil when he went off the crowd booed him so badly. Was so funny.

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Steiner on Stroll:

Guenther Steiner on Lance Stroll’s Brazil DNS:

“You do something stupid on the formation lap. What to do next? Something more stupid. It’s just like a brain fart.”

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Guenther telling it like it is

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Lol now that he is out of the Paddock he can speak his mind.

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It’s RAWE CEEK!!

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2024 Las Vegas Grand Prix :us:

Las Vegas Strip Circuit | Las Vegas | USA | Sunday, 24 November
2024 F1 Season: Round 22

F1 is back for a final triple-header to close off the season. Three Grand Prix and a Sprint Race remain, starting on the Las Vegas Strip this weekend. Both the Drivers and the Constructors Championships remain undecided going into the weekend. But a win for Max Verstappen will see him secure his fourth World Drivers Championship. And it will take a mammoth effort and a lot of luck from Lando Norris, his only real challenger, to stop the inevitable happening. The ask for Lando to keep the Championship alive is pretty steep.

Things in the Constructors standings are a lot tighter. Any one of the top three teams still have a mathematical chance of winning, and the Championship will not be decided in Vegas. McLaren have a 36 point lead going into the weekend. Ferrari have the momentum having scored the most points in the past three races. And Red Bull are just 13 points shy of the Scuderia and should never be counted out. If Max and his hot-and-cold team mate Checo Perez can both score well, the table will change again.

Last years’ inaugural LVGP had its fair share of teething issues both on and off the circuit. Carlos Sainz’ Ferrari discovered a significant flaw in the seal of the rain water covers in the Strip in spectacularly dramatic fashion. Fans got removed from their seats before the end of the Qualifying session because it ran significantly later than scheduled with repairs needed to secure all the drain covers, and public access roads needing to be reopened. Hopefully there are fewer problems this year and the racing can take the focus of the weekend.

In addition to all the stars and razzmatazz that is Vegas, Brad Pitt and the Apex GP team will also be in attendance again this weekend. They doing final pickup shooting and capturing additional material for the F1 movie.


The Stats

  • First Grand Prix – 2023
  • Track Length – 6.201km
  • Lap Record – 1m 35.490s, Oscar Piastri, McLaren, 2023
  • Most Poles – Charles Leclerc (1)
  • Most Wins – Max Verstappen (1)
  • Pole to Turn 1 – 150 metres
  • Safety Car Probability – 100%
  • Virtual Safety Car Probability – 100%
  • Pit Stop Time Loss – 20.5 seconds (including 2.5s stop)

Last Las Vegas GP Pole

  • 2023 – Charles Leclerc (Ferrari)

Last Las Vegas Winner

  • 2023 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)

The Schedule

What happens in Vegas on Saturday night shows up in South Africa on Sunday morning. Yip, Vegas race weekend is Thursday - Friday - Saturday night there which makes for early morning viewing here for us.


The Circuit

When was the track built?
The 2023 Formula 1 season saw drivers tackle an all-new circuit in Las Vegas, encompassing the very best the City of Lights has to offer – including the famous Strip.

When was its first Grand Prix?
Las Vegas previously staged two F1 races – under the Caesars Palace Grand Prix moniker – in 1981 and 1982. It played host to the season finale on both occasions, with Williams driver Alan Jones winning the 1981 race and Michele Alboreto taking his maiden F1 victory for Tyrrell at the 1982 encounter. Meanwhile, Nelson Piquet and Keke Rosberg clinched the title in ’81 and ’82 respectively with fifth-place finishes.

What’s the circuit like?
Located in the heart of Las Vegas, the new 6.2km, 17-turn street circuit winds its way past iconic locations like Caesars Palace, the Bellagio and the Venetian. With average speeds similar to Monza, otherwise known as F1’s ‘Temple of Speed’, fans are guaranteed plenty of action and overtaking.

Jolyon Palmer’s Views:

The track comprises long straights and slower corners. The long straights will necessitate slashing the downforce levels, so the cars will feel inherently skittish before you even factor in the cool temperatures. Building and maintaining tyre temperatures will also be tricky.

Turn 6 into 7 is one of the toughest braking zones, accelerating through a long left-hander before hitting the brakes for 7 – it’ll be easy to lock the inside front there.

Turn 12 is also crucial as it punctuates two long straights. Finding the balance between braking well and preparing the exit is tough, and mistakes here are punishing.

Having good braking ability and traction will be the key and, in general, corner exits will be crucial onto the long straights.


The Weather

What a difference a couple of months makes. When I visited Vegas in August temperatures were hitting 42°C during the day and cooling to 29°C overnight. As it stands, the three days of running at the Las Vegas Strip Circuit now will see daily temperatures ranging between just 10°C and 20°C. And with all the racing action happening late at night, it’s the cooler side of that range that the teams and drivers will be watching.

Thursday (Friday) – FP1 and FP2

  • A sunny day with light wind.
  • FP1: 16°C // FP2: 13°C
  • Chance of rain: 0%

Friday (Saturday) – FP3 and Qualifying

  • A mostly sunny day with calm wind.
  • FP3: 16°C // Q: 13°C
  • Chance of rain: 0%

Saturday (Sunday) – Grand Prix

  • A partly cloudy day with light-to-moderate southerly wind.
  • GP: 15°C
  • Chance of rain: 0%


The Tyres

The main challenge on the tyre front will be warm-up, especially during qualifying and for the front axle in particular.

Drivers will have to be careful to bring the tyres up to temperature without overworking them, avoiding any lock-ups at the heaviest braking points, particularly at the end of the longest straights, along which the tyres will suffer a further reduction in surface temperature.

Furthermore, low temperatures lead to a reduction in grip and that can cause increased graining. These factors could lead to a speeding up of the wear process, which suggests a two-stop strategy, which was in fact the most popular choice last year.

However, a one-stop can still be quite competitive, especially if the driver gradually brings the tyres up to temperature, prolonging its life over a long stint.

Because of the difficulty in warm-up, pitting early to try and make up places with an undercut is not very efficient and in fact, on paper, going longer is a better choice.


The Programme

The digital programme for the Formula 1 Las Vegas Grand Prix 2024 is now available.

Download now at linktr.ee/F1raceprogramme


Welcome to Fabulous Las Vegas! :us:

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