Is Horner out because Max just told them he IS going to Merc? So RB is blaming Horner for failing to keep Max happy?
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Pole turned out not to be the best place to be…
Another maximum points haul for McLaren, and Oscar again winning out with sheer and utter calmness.
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I knew Lando would lose the pole spot, saw that coming miles away.
Well pissed at them for buggering up his pitstop and more pissed at him for not pushing harder from the start - Oscar would have had to stop for tires then I suspect if he had more pressure
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Thank goodness for the sane heads at Ferrari. Some continuity at the top going into the big changes and new regs of 2026.
NYIOY!
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Woooooooooooot that is great news I just love Fred
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Simply lovely!
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F1 guy go Brrr pop pop brrrrrr! in a Rally car:
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Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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I should say I was really expecting more from Leclerc - felt bad for him.
Pastry needs to stop the moaning its not Lando’s fault for managing his tyres better and getting to the end - Pastry would have passed him if there was 3 more laps, that I am sure of
Just watched this, was seriously impressed!
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Talk about moaning… Sheesh old Georgie can moan! I did not hear much moaning from Oscar though. But if he did I can understand why 
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George is captain moan, but he does similar things haha
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It’s official official
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2025 Dutch Grand Prix 
Circuit Zandvoort • North Holland • Netherlands
29 - 31 August • Round 15
The Vital Statistics
- First Grand Prix – 1952
- Track Length – 4.259km
- Lap record – 1m 11.097s, Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes, 2021
- Most pole positions – Rene Arnoux/Max Verstappen (3)
- Most wins – Jim Clark (4)
- Pole run to Turn 1 braking point – 199 metres
- Overtakes completed in 2024 – 73
- Pit stop time loss – 23 seconds
- Safety Car probability – 50%*
- Virtual Safety Car probability – 50%*
* Based on the last 4 Dutch GP events
Trivia
- Zandvoort’s final corner – named after Dutch motorsport legend Arie Luyendyk – features an 18-degree banking, almost double the numbers seen at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
- The Dutch Grand Prix is contracted to be held at Zandvoort until 2026, after which it will no longer be part of the Formula One calendar as the local promoter decided not to seek a contract extension.
Last five Dutch GP polesitters
- 2024 – Lando Norris (McLaren)
- 2023 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 2022 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 2021 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 1985 – Nelson Piquet (Brabham)
Last five Dutch GP winners
- 2024 – Lando Norris (McLaren)
- 2023 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 2022 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 2021 – Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
- 1985 – Niki Lauda (McLaren)
This weekend’s race will be the 35th Dutch Grand Prix to count towards the FIA Formula 1 World Championship. Since the first edition in 1952, all have been run at Zandvoort. The current track layout made its debut in 2021, when the race returned to the calendar for the first time since 1985.
Jim Clark is the driver with the most wins here, on four, all in a Lotus. Behind him are three other world champions, with three victories apiece: Jackie Stewart, Niki Lauda and Max Verstappen. The Dutchman leads the way when it comes to pole positions with three, joint equal with René Arnoux, while Clark and Lauda head the list for podium finishes with six each. Ferrari is the most successful team with eight wins, ahead of Lotus on six and McLaren on four, the latter winning here last year courtesy of Lando Norris. On eight, Lotus has the most poles, followed by Ferrari on seven, these positions reversed when it comes to podium finishes, Ferrari on 26, Lotus on 16.
The Schedule
Them Dutchies know how to tell time. Thier time, our time, same time.
The Circuit
When was the Circuit Zandvoort built?
- Like Silverstone, Zandvoort was first opened in 1948, part of the wave of post-war motorsport enthusiasm that swept across Europe. Originally made up of a mixture of permanent track and public roads that snaked through the sand dunes of the Zandvoort resort town, the Dutch Automobile Racing Club – who initiated the plans for the circuit – brought in 1927 Le Mans winner Sammy Davis to consult on the layout for the original 4.2km track.
When was its first Grand Prix?
- Formula 1 arrived in the Dutch dunes in 1952, with Alberto Ascari dominating the race as he led home a 1-2-3 for Ferrari. Formula 1 would go on to race on and off at the track until 1985 – before, in 2019, the announcement came that the championship would return to Zandvoort for 2020, after a 35-year hiatus. The Covid-19 pandemic meant that became 36 years and a 2021 date.
What’s the circuit like?
- ‘Really quick’, ‘pretty insane’, ‘crazy’ and ‘old-school’ were words used by the current crop of F1 drivers when asked to describe the Zandvoort track that many of them tackled in their junior category days. We’d also add ‘undulating’ to that list. The Zandvoort track swoops and flows through the sand dunes, creating a rollercoaster-like feel to the lap. And while the circuit was modernised in time for F1’s most recent return – including increasing the banking angle at the famous Tarzan corner to an Indianapolis Motor Speedway-trumping 18 degrees – Zandvoort remains a proper, challenging drivers’ track.
Jolyon Palmer, former Renault F1 driver:
I’ve only done this one on a bike! Zandvoort is actually a lovely circuit that has been adapted really well for modern F1. It’s still difficult to overtake on, as expected with an old design of track, but the banking makes a huge difference.
You don’t really appreciate the banking until you go around it at Turn 3. The theory is multiple lines, but everyone just bolts for the outside line and tries to get the exit right. And again, coming through the final corner as well, running the banking.
It is a nice, flowing track. You’ve got to have commitment, particularly in the middle sector, which is undulating, and you’ve got to just have it hooked up in the high speed sections. You don’t want to be having random snaps of oversteer, because it’s a punishing circuit as well…
The Weather
It’s going to be wet. All weekend. Possibly even very wet. But also, maybe not so wet. Intermittently. On and off. Sort of. Basically, what I’m trying to say is that there’s going to be rain around Zandvoort, and it’s a little unpredictable. Chance of rain on race day ranges from 20% to 80%. Oh, and there’s a fair bit of a breeze going to be blowing at times too. If you’re playing Fantasy F1, this would be a good weekend to apply the No Negative chip to your team.
Friday • FP1 and FP2
- Under the influence of a low pressure area, dull weather, overcast with rain at times. 5-15mm expected.
- FP1: 18°C // FP2: 19-20°C
- Chance of rain: >80%
Saturday • FP3 and Qualifying
- Another weather front expected to cross the region. Still cloudy and showery at times. 5-15mm of rain expected. Sustained southerly wind.
- FP3: 16°C // Q: 18°C
- Chance of rain: >80%
Sunday • Race
- High probability of showers, still under the influence of the low pressure area. Windy with moderate southwesterly wind.
- Race start: 19°C
- Chance of rain: 80%
The Tyres
This weekend’s Dutch Grand Prix marks a milestone in Pirelli’s time in Formula 1, as this race will be the five hundredth world championship round of motorsport’s blue riband category in which the Italian marque has had an official presence.
The story dates back to 13 May 1950 and the British Grand Prix, which was also the very first world championship event. That day at Silverstone, four Alfa Romeos and four Maseratis were fitted with Pirelli tyres and the race winner Giuseppe Farina, followed home by Luigi Fagioli and Red Parnell, all driving Alfas, gave the Italian tyres a clean sweep of the podium places.
Since then, Pirelli has been present at 499 events, split between three eras: from 1950 to 1958, from 1981 to 1991 (although not in 1987 and 1988) and, from 2021 onwards, it has been the FIA Formula 1 World Championship’s Global Tyre Partner.
For the race in the Netherlands, Pirelli has gone a step softer in terms of compounds than last year. The teams will have a choice of the C2 as Hard, the C3 as Medium and the C4 as Soft, whereas in 2024 the available compounds were C1, C2 and C3. The decision, taken in conjunction with the FIA and the championship promoter, has the aim of increasing the likelihood of a strategy based on two stops, rather than just the one-stop, which has been the predominant choice since this race returned to the calendar in 2022.
A further step in this direction stems from the FIA’s decision to increase the pit lane speed limit from 60 to 80 km/h, thus reducing the time taken for a pit stop. According to simulations provided by the teams, the one-stop is still quickest, partly because overtaking is notoriously difficult at Zandvoort, with very few straights apart from the main one, combined with the fact the whole track is quite narrow.
Last year 16 drivers lined up on the grid on the Medium tyre, while three, Hamilton, Tsunoda and Bottas went for the Soft, with Magnussen starting from the pit lane on Hards. Three quarters of the field made just one stop during the race, taking on the Hard as the second set, while Magnussen went with the Medium. The Mercedes pair pitted twice – Hamilton used two sets of C3 and Russell one – while the remaining three, Tsunoda, Bottas and Zhou, ran all three available compounds, with Albon choosing to run Medium, Hard, Medium.
Hulkenberg drove the longest stint of all, completing 57 laps on the Hard. Piastri topped the list with the Medium on 33 laps, while Hamilton ran 24 on the Soft.
The Programme
The official digital race programme for the Dutch GP is out now. View it at OFFICIAL FORMULA 1® DIGITAL RACE PROGRAMME - Netherlands
The Standings
With 10 races still to go this year, McLaren are already near certain Constructor’s Champions again. They already have more points than Ferrari in P2 and Mercedes in P3 combined.
The Driver’s Championship is not quite as clearcut yet though it is also a near certainty that one of the two McLaren drivers will claim thier first F1 WDC title. Just 9 points seperate them with Piastri holding the P1 position through the Summer break.
Laten we gaan racen!
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