Could possibly skip on the storage HDD for now
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Peripherals - keyboard, mouse, monitor?
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So would you prefer a build that could be upgraded later with some incremental spend? Reason for asking being, we could do an Intel build with a CPU that’s a generation or two behind that would be great for midrange gaming, but offers no upgrade path. You could still upgrade the GPU of course.
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i found this system on Carbonite:
Would this not maybe be an option for you?
i know you want new, but i have always bought my pc parts from here and most ppl here have CUD so a lot of time the parts are practically brand new and still under warranty.
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I actually had to look that up. Yes, it’s a thing. I think mine is under control though. eye twitches slightly
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I would prefer a build where I am not in the same trap I am now, my socket 1155 LGA mobo dying and I cannot find any replacements for it. My system as it stands was from June 2013, thats 6 years of running and running amazingly well. If possible, I want something that I can slot in a new CPU in 3-4 years time and still smile.
I have all the peripherals for it, including optical drive.
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yes, mine was but now that i have ventured into carb again my cud is starting to nag at me…
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I also have access to a GEF GTX 660 Ti, it runs faster than the 750 Ti but also a lot hotter so I tend not to use it, the performance increase is not so large as to make it anything more than 10fps extra when I play.
Will it work better in an upgraded system or should I just shoot for a newer GPU?
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Hmm. It’s a good goal; I’m just wondering whether it’s possible given where we are in the technology cycle.
AMD are normally a better option for future drop-in upgrades because they tend to maintain a socket much longer than Intel. Thing is, AM4 is already approaching the end of their initial stated life cycle, which is 2020. Zen , Zen+, Zen 2 obviously all work on it, so if like me you bought Zen back in 2017, you’ll get 4-5 years out of it easily. However, Zen 3 might be on an entirely new socket because of design changes; we don’t know yet.However, I would expect AM4 to have a useful lifetime for at least another 3 years or so, otherwise people that buy those pricey X570 mobo’s now are in for a shock.
With Intel of course, it’s anybody’s guess. I’m fairly sure their 10nm chips coming next year will require new motherboards, so if you buy Intel now, you’re almost guaranteed to be on a dead socket.
Either way, there is at least some possibility that you may have to replace everything again 3 to 4 years from now, depending on what you buy.
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Ok so x470 mobo or B450 and a cheapish ryzen 5 and 16gb ram will do the trick, together with a GTX 1650?
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Let’s put a test system together with some actual prices and see where we get. As for the 1650, it’s overpriced for the performance you get. The RX570 is both cheaper and faster.
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The new AMD prices is also a factor, towards the end of this month, the existing ryzens could be selling at a lot cheaper than they are now, forced down by the arrival of the new ryzens. Although I have no idea how that all works and if they will be significantly cheaper or not.
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They’re probably as cheap as they’re going to get for the immediate future. What typically happens is that existing models get heavily discounted before the new models arrive, to try and clear out old stock, and entice people to buy now rather than wait for the new versions. There may still be some spot deals from time to time of course.
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Have a look at these:
AMD first gen:
https://www.evetech.co.za/amd-ryzen-5-1600-b450-tomahawk-16gb-upgrade-kit/best-deal/6408.aspx
AMD 3rd gen:
https://www.evetech.co.za/amd-ryzen-5-3600-rog-strix-b450-f-16gb-ddr4-upgrade-kit/best-deal/6340.aspx
Intel alternative (note this one is on special so not normal price)
https://www.evetech.co.za/core-i5-9400f-tuf-b360m-plus-16gb-ddr4-upgrade-kit/best-deal/6052.aspx
So CPU + Mobo + 16GB of RAM will set you back between R5k and R6k. I would rather not look at cheaper mobo options.
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Looking at the RAM I’ve been reading that 3200MHZ is the minimum for Ryzen. They have 2666MHz isn’t that a risk?
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Yes Evetech tends to underut prices by putting in slower and bad RAM for upgrade kits. Their Ryzen upgrade kits should not be touched unless you can get 3200MHz or higher RAM modules.
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It’s just an example; you could always buy the parts separately or maybe request another RAM option. It may cost more though.
As for the impact of RAM speed, I found a good article on it.
You’re looking at maybe a 5-7% performance difference between the slowest and fastest DDR4 kits.
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See article above. The difference isn’t as big as people make it out to be.
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Ok, here are the parts from rebeltech, prices are about the same as evetech
Corsair VS CP-9020170, 450w
DeepCool XFAN 120, 120mm, Black x4
DeepCool Tesseract BF, Midi Tower, Black, ATX
AMD Ryzen 5 2600
G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB, 16GB Kit, DDR4-3200, CL16
MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 Mini ITX OC 4G + Free GIGABYTE 120GB SSD
All for R10500. Is that a good plan, keeping in mind everything we discussed?
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