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Indeed. When we see or read statistical data it almost seems superfluous or near irrelevant. Once we visualise it it adds some context and value to it. Really hits home.
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What the hell is wrong with people? Our species is so screwed.
I donât care who they are - anyone with this level of wanton ignorance, and anyone who sympathizes with or supports this sort of kak, (including the still present virus deniers, and the anti-mask-my-freedum brigade,) does not deserve a single iota of medical attention when their stupidity inevitably sees them needing care. Healthcare workers should not be required to put their lives at risk for these fools and their ilk.
They should also be moved to the very back of the vaccine queue. Way, way back.
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Then where do you place those that promote the conspiracies, the ones that believe COVID does not exist, and those that think the world is flat (I just threw that one in), but you get the idea.
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I knew this was going to happen after that ANC councillor said 5G towers give people Covid and white people have been given the vaccine 5 months ago
I hope that the ANC makes him responsible for this
This is gold in the comment section by Mazidude
âYesterday: Burns Towers.
Today: Complains about poor network quality.
Tomorrow: Blames âwhite monopolyâ , claims Voda and MTN are racist.â
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I hope this stupidity doesnât spread to my area. I love my 5G.
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Yeah thatâs a new worry now!
I hope the idiots leave our 5G towers alone.
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What will you choose when they become available?
Govt is getting 1million of the Astrazeneca, which I assume they will hand out for free.
Personally, I would get the 1 dose one, the Jonson one, cheaper, one dose so you dont have to go back for another and only 5% difference to the more expensive one.
On the other hand, if the more expensive one is available first with a couple of months to the next one, I will pay more for it.
Statistically speaking these percentages are all a bit iffy I think. Smallish sample sizes and all that.
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Thatâs quite the claim when you donât actually know the sample sizes⌠
Itâs quite easy to calculate the minimum sample size required to get 95% or 99% confidence.
But ja, the choice is moot right now, the first hurdle is availability.
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Interesting that you should say that, I donât know anything about stats past what I learned in 1st Year psych so not claiming to be an expert at all. I was giving it some thought and realised that I am not sure how they can claim that it will be as efficacious as they say by percentage given the truly astounding amount of genetic diversity in a world population. What would a good sample group be of the entire range of possibilities genetically in an 8billion sized group?
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So the question here is: has SA Gov approved all of the other vaccines as well? If so, I think it will not be long before pharmacies sell them locally at import duty+conversion+demand prices.
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An article on News24 I read earlier said that all sourcing will be done through Government, who will then distribute to both public and private sector. I believe the intent is to ensure fair distribution and avoid price scalping. The price weâll pay is Govt incompetence and corruption. That said, itâs a News24 article, so half of what they published is probably outright wrong.
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If that is the case then it is a choice of using a dodgy 60%-90% vaccine or risk waiting. Damn.
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Interesting read, looks like there is some hope of buying a âbetterâ vaccine
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Thatâs not as bad as it sounds. The MMR vaccine only has 78% efficacy against mumps, but due to the fact that enough people received the vaccine, weâve established herd immunity, and we rarely have outbreaks.
Even if the efficacy is lower, itâs much, much more important to get the vaccine in as many people as possible to cut down routes of transmission.
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Iâm no physician, but the way that I understand how the vaccines work after reading this twitter thread by an actual physician, I believe your own genetic make up will have very little to do with how effective the vaccine is. Itâs a good question, though, and I will be asking my wife if she remembers anything from her genetics courses.
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Pfizer submission to the FDA.
They mention efficacy in the document.
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With regards to costs of vaccines, itâs supposed to become a prescribed minimum benefit, so I would imagine medical scheme members wonât need to pay.
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âItâs mandatory for medical schemes to pay for for the Covid-19 vaccine,â says Dr Ryan Noach, CEO at Discovery Health.
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Following @czcâs example, I went looking for the document for the AZ vaccine. Couldnât find it so I gave up, and found this instead:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32661-1/fulltext
Itâs the paper published about the AZ efficacy trial, it turns out if you get two full doses, the efficacy is around 60%, if you got a low dose followed by a full dose, efficacy is around 90%. So, if applied correctly, weâll see 90% efficacy.
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